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Wassup thread heads,

Well I had to work a lil late so I missed the game. So of course Im going to ask the thread heads to help a brutha out on what happened (as far as the layout of the game...)


Ok so here are my questions.


1. Why did Beas play only a handful of minutes? And does this result into why the usual suspects are barking about trading Beasley so he can get his "shine" somewhere else?

Im wondering because if its a legitimate reason then I'll understand the frustration (to a degree), but if its another PMS moment, then, nvm.

2. Now I see Chalmers had 35 minutes of action as well as Arenas having 37. So Im assuming they were matched up all night. Now looking at the boxscore I see Gilbert lit em up for 32 while Chalmers managed a humble 5. Is it safe to assume Arenas was really giving Chalmers the business all night? That would be bad, Chalmers getting done in two nights in a row...poor guy.

3. Where is ISA when you need her? I told her Q Rich was gonna be my longshot sleeper and hes proving me right so far. My question is, who was Q Rich guarding? Was he guarding Butler? If so, is it safe to assume he did a pretty darn good job with his assignment?

4. WHY IS "OH-HELL" WRIGHT PLAYING AND JAMES JONES ISNT?!?!?

5. Did Big Cat say something about Spo's momma or something? Why isnt he seeing the floor as much?

6. This might be the answer to questions 4 & 5, but will somebody tell me why they are going with a 9 man rotation? Wouldnt 10 be better? Especially with the big men?

Well thats all i can think of right now. I know this isnt as elaborate as "House's Ramblings" but hey,give me a break here, lol. Any feedback would be appreciated. Till next time

Peace!!!
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Man. where were u? Wade saved the day as always. MB and Chalmers were awful. Of course it took QRich to guard Arenas. Worse is, we lost a 19 pt. lead w/ the efforts of B.Haywood and worriorship of Miller.Stupid ref call as usual. Sorry, but i just hurt my neck just shakin' my head w/ disgutst. I guess the others may give u other details.
 
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yeah, Chalmers guarded arenas part of the time, but towards the end Quentin Richardson took over. He did a great job too. Why beasley and james jones dont get solid minutes suprises me too....



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Beasley played a couple of minutes at PF and shot 50% from the position. He was subbed when it was time for him to go out even though he was one of only two people scoring for us in the third quarter.

Yeah I am sure it was awful.

We won because the Wiz failed to execute at the end. Lucky win.

Hopefully Wade can do this for 77 more games and if we're lucky we'll win 35 of them.

Personally I'm done watching the games and following the team. I will stick to reading Ira's blog on occasion and checking the stats on ESPN to see if Wade is scoring champ or not.

We'll be lucky to make the playoffs and if we do we'll be out in the first round to the Hawks again.

Let's go Heat.
 
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Personally I'm done watching the games and following the team. I will stick to reading Ira's blog on occasion and checking the stats on ESPN to see if Wade is scoring champ or not.

We'll be lucky to make the playoffs and if we do we'll be out in the first round to the Hawks again.




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To answer question #2:

Yeah, Chalmers was getting sh*++ed on by Arenas and got him in early foul trouble. He just cant stay in front of anybody and its a shame because i was hoping that it was something he would've vastly improved on during the off-season. Obviously he hasn't. Frowner


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Of course Chalmers got beasted on, do you even have to ask? But, its Arenas who is a scoring PG so you can let that slide. What happened with Nash the night before was pathetic though.

I didn't know you were picking Q-Rich as your sleeper this year, but if you did, great guess. I said he would be a bench warmer for us because of the way he played for NY and because of the shape he was in when he came here, but he dropped the weight and he's beasting out there. He's playing like Shawn Marion in his prime (great D and rebounding) but with a 3 pt shot!

Wade finally had a good game, though his assist numbers still aren't there. I think he'll be more like himself for the rest of the season now. That loss to the Suns really woke him up I think.

I hate to say it, but I think JJ will be traded soon.I don't know how badly he's playing in practice to lose his minutes to Dorrell or if its Wade/Q-Rich's idea, but it looks like the 1-3-5 will be in full effect on the court this season. Not sure how to feel about that just yet :/ Joel is also taking Magloire's minutes.

I don't know what to tell you about the situation with Beasley though. I didn't get to see the whole game so I'll reserve comment, but I just think the trust in his game isn't there yet by the coaching staff. Can't say I blame them down the stretch, but they can at least give him more minutes in the 3rd? Even if its not at PF. Even if they are seeing he won't fit, he needs to play to up his trade value.


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You are right that Chalmers and Arenas were matched up most of the night, and Gilbert did have a big game, but one thing that will be overlooked is that Arenas only shot an ABYSMAL 9-27 from the field to get his 32 points (he was 12-15 from the line since Arroyo had seemingly no chance to guard him, but not surprisingly, he is an amazing offensive player).

Also, who of all players led tonight in +/-, (one of my favorite and most interesting stats?)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/...ore?gameId=291104027

Jermaine O'Neal, with a +17. Strange, huh? Maybe that shows there was more to his game (and Arenas's poor shooting night) than shows up in the box score.

One of those cases where you have to look a bit deeper for the whole story. Big Grin
 
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1. Why did Beas play only a handful of minutes? And does this result into why the usual suspects are barking about trading Beasley so he can get his "shine" somewhere else?

Im wondering because if its a legitimate reason then I'll understand the frustration (to a degree), but if its another PMS moment, then, nvm.

2. Now I see Chalmers had 35 minutes of action as well as Arenas having 37. So Im assuming they were matched up all night. Now looking at the boxscore I see Gilbert lit em up for 32 while Chalmers managed a humble 5. Is it safe to assume Arenas was really giving Chalmers the business all night? That would be bad, Chalmers getting done in two nights in a row...poor guy.

3. Where is ISA when you need her? I told her Q Rich was gonna be my longshot sleeper and hes proving me right so far. My question is, who was Q Rich guarding? Was he guarding Butler? If so, is it safe to assume he did a pretty darn good job with his assignment?

4. WHY IS "OH-HELL" WRIGHT PLAYING AND JAMES JONES ISNT?!?!?

5. Did Big Cat say something about Spo's momma or something? Why isnt he seeing the floor as much?

6. This might be the answer to questions 4 & 5, but will somebody tell me why they are going with a 9 man rotation? Wouldnt 10 be better? Especially with the big men?




1. Beasley was back to his rookie form. He was picking up ticky tacky fouls and jacking up jumpers when he had the open lane to drive. This is while we had an 18 point lead in the first quarter. After a while, the Wizards started to catch up and Beasley's soft defense was exposed. Although to be fair, Flip Saunders inserted Fabricio Oberto into the game at the 4 whom clearly had a size advantage and frustrated Beasley and kept him off the defensive glass. So basically the combination of Blatche, Butler (when Beasley played the 3) and Oberto made Beasley mostly irrelevant. Beasley got a few good looks in, but once Q-Rich came into the game, it was pretty clear which squad was playing the best.

2. Yes, Chalmers was getting abused badly by arenas. He twisted his ankle on a fast break and they put arroyo in. In 4 mins, arroyo picked up 3 fouls on Arenas. So yes, Arenas had his way with our pg's. But there wasn't much that chalmers could do really. Arenas was just unstoppable. However, Chalmers didn't really do well on the offensive end either.

3. Yes, Q-Rich was on Butler and did a great job on him. He also gave us a boost on offense and did pretty good on the pick and rolls. This is pretty much why Beasley was taken out of the game. UD and Q-Rich provided a much more solid defensive effort in the game where the wizards were playing like it was a playoff series.

4. I have no idea whatsoever. Hopefully its to get him prepared for a trade package!


5. Again, I have no idea. Haywood and Blatche were being extremely physical with JO and Magloire would've been very useful in this game.


6. I noticed that as well. I think its probably because they are planning on making a trade(s) sometime before the deadline. So they are trying to keep the rotation tight. We do still have the exception from the Marion/Banks deal which expires in december. This is the most logical thing. Anything other reason wouldn't make much sense.


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You are right that Chalmers and Arenas were matched up most of the night, and Gilbert did have a big game, but one thing that will be overlooked is that Arenas only shot an ABYSMAL 9-27 from the field to get his 32 points (he was 12-15 from the line since Arroyo had seemingly no chance to guard him, but not surprisingly, he is an amazing offensive player).

Also, who of all players led tonight in +/-, (one of my favorite and most interesting stats?)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/...ore?gameId=291104027

Jermaine O'Neal, with a +17. Strange, huh? Maybe that shows there was more to his game (and Arena's poor shooting night) than shows up in the box score.

One of those cases where you have to look a bit deeper for the whole story. Big Grin


So I'm not the only person on here who looks at FG% and +/-??

Anyway, I told you guys to keep your eyes on Brendan Haywood before the season started. He's an interesting player because he gets overlooked a lot. I think he might be available for a good price this offseason.


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Oh also,

7. The refs blew a LOT of calls for both teams. So sometime in the 3rd quarter, the game got pretty heated. It looked like a fight might break out too with all the arguing but everybody kept it cool (the teams kinda like each other anyway).


8. The Heat didn't really play well in the 2nd half. We didn't win the game as much as the wizards lost it. Washington just blew a lot of wide open shots. They really should've won the game.

9. Wade started the game off backing down and attacking the paint. Then he turned into vince carter. But thankfully he started attacking again.


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Let's not blame Chalmers for getting blown to bits by Gilbert. He's known for tearing up the leagues best (like Kobe).

Also, since you didn't see the game, you should probably know that we blew a 17 point lead starting the game by the start of the second quarter.
 
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In my eyes we won but we lost cause it was much of the same from last year with Wade dominating the scoring 40pts but 26 shots to get it plus all the times he went to the line which draws a picture of a guy who had the ball in his hands a whole lot. That isn't a knock on Wade at all cause I am baffled sometimes by play calling.

Micheal Beasley and Jermaine O'Neal get off only 17 shots combined are not good numbers.They are by the best 2nd and 3options you have the team in no particular order.

To be fair Chalmers got beat but Gil beat everybody the Heat put on him and owned Arroyo soul.
 
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Beasley played a couple of minutes at PF and shot 50% from the position. He was subbed when it was time for him to go out even though he was one of only two people scoring for us in the third quarter.

Yeah I am sure it was awful.

We won because the Wiz failed to execute at the end. Lucky win.

Hopefully Wade can do this for 77 more games and if we're lucky we'll win 35 of them.

Personally I'm done watching the games and following the team. I will stick to reading Ira's blog on occasion and checking the stats on ESPN to see if Wade is scoring champ or not.

We'll be lucky to make the playoffs and if we do we'll be out in the first round to the Hawks again.

Let's go Heat.

Really? After 5 games? Not to diss you or anything but where you here at all last season?
 
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1. Beasley played a handful of minutes because he was playing soft. He kept relying on a jumper and not driving.

2. Chalmers I my opinion did great defensively. I don't know what game everybody else was watching but in the first half arenas was on lock until chalmers twisted his ankle. They put arroyo in and you would swear we had steve nash on defense. He picked up 3 fouls in like two minutes. Ridiculous, forcing chalmers bad ankle and all to come back.

3. I chose q-rich also but his d is what's surprising. I know he can shoot but he's trying to be a lockdown defender. Even tho the small forward of my dreams Caron was playing fir the other team q did excellent. You could hear him calling out on defense on tv like kg.

4. I don't know why they didn't use him but they sure as he'll needed him these past two games. Miami can not beat the zone for nothing. The only way to beat the zone is through penetration and shooting. He would have been able to pick that apart.

5. I don't care about +/-, Jermaine was getting treated as scrub. Haywood looked like an allstar out there. Miller came out like die hard Brett farve, and Jermaine couldn't block his one shoulder self.

6. I don't understand his rotation. We have length and shooters. Chalmers needs to find his shot or attempt to get one because he's killing me. They can pay me a million to walk the ball up and I'll be fine. Same for arroyo, I honestly don't see the difference between them and Quinn.

7. Wade shot 14/26. Over 50 percent could have been more if the refs just call the fouls. Miami needs to learn how to beat the zone besides that we are actually a superstar away from having a contender. We are better than last year and we should be 5-0 Now if it wasn't for spo.


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