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I keep reading how the young players will be that much better from being fresh off the "Riley Camp". This is the same camp that works the players so hard, they have NO legs left for the games. These are the same shooting coaches who cannot teach our team to make their shots or a decent free throw. With no summer league to play in, they cannot even use what they are being taught to gel as a team and get better. They will only know a summer of scrimmaging EACH OTHER. This is going to leave them unprepared in any way for preseason. With half of them nursing an injury from being overworked. And I am reading here how we are going to move up and get one of the home court seeds? This observation is NOT based on reality.

wow man...You are really pessimistic. I have never seen a post so full of negativity lol. You wouldn't last a day as a coach. You will probably be like Kevin Garnett is gonna dunk it on our face, He is gonna block all our shots, and we will lose this game.

That made absolutley no sense whatsoever. But you are the complete opposite if he is a pessismist. You have Miami at the 4 seed in your thread, ahead of Atlanta, the team that beat us last year and made improvements and we stayed the same. Do the math.

Do the math, We went to a game 7 with our rookies and we lost 2 starters in game 7 plus Wade's back spasms. Joe Johnson would have never lighted us up like he did in game 7 because Moon would have kept him under control. Moon's long arms and athleticism would have kept him under control. WE LOST THE SERIES BECAUSE OF OUR INJURIES AND NOTHING ELSE. WE WERE THE BETTER TEAM.

If we were the better team, we wouldv'e had homecourt advantage in that playoff series. If we were the better team we would have won game 4, when we were healthy and at home to lead 3-1. Moon keeping Joe Johnson under control? The Celtics had trouble doing that 2 years ago, Moon is not Tayshaun Prince. That team was overall a better team than us, Wade carried us all last season, they got their wins through solid team play.

Thats because we didn't get a C until 2 months b4 the playoffs started, we maybe could of got the 4th seed. In Game 7 Moon, Head, O'neal, Wade, was injured. All we had leading the team was rookies. O yea did i 4get that James Jones hasn't recovered 100% from his injury. And Dorell Wright was injured. We have 6 palyers not 100%. Thats why we got beat. And u know wut happened when ATL played Cleveland? They got injured.

If we were fully 100% for all 7 games, then yes we couldv'e beat them. But we weren't and had a great oppurtunity to lead the series 3-1 to send it back to Atlanta, and we got thrashed on our homecourt when we were healthy.

Dorrel Wright was injured the whole year, therefore you cannot throw him in there as being a factor in that series. Same goes for Head, we got him like a month before the playoffs, what factor would he have been? Our only legit excuse is Jermaine's concussion and Wade's back. It ends there.

Game 4- No Moon, Wade back spasms
Game 5- No Moon, Wade back spasms
Game 6- We won, Wade recovered
Game 7- No Moon, No O'neal, Not at Home.

The first 3 games Joe Johnson played really bad because he couldn't do anything against Jamario Moon. Joe Johnson doesn't have quickness to score on Jamario. You have no idea how much different things would have been if we had Moon playing.

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No, PHX is arg'n ( Angry ) with GS. PHX want Biedrins, Marco AND Stephen Curry. GS won't take that. We could solve this prob and trade for Amare.

OK, well what could we give Phx that they would like for Amare? UD Jones Cook, and a pick? To have Amare for one year and run the risk of losing him next year and not resigning with us?

I think Riles is playing for 2010. We open up a lot of cap space after this year so we can do a lot of things. The only problem is wade waiting another year and Riley trying to keep him happy.

The trade suggestion has been Beasley, Blount, and Jones. Even if we do lose him in 2010, we still got 30+ Mill to spend. Wade will resign then i know Riley will sign 2/3 other players.

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I keep reading how the young players will be that much better from being fresh off the "Riley Camp". This is the same camp that works the players so hard, they have NO legs left for the games. These are the same shooting coaches who cannot teach our team to make their shots or a decent free throw. With no summer league to play in, they cannot even use what they are being taught to gel as a team and get better. They will only know a summer of scrimmaging EACH OTHER. This is going to leave them unprepared in any way for preseason. With half of them nursing an injury from being overworked. And I am reading here how we are going to move up and get one of the home court seeds? This observation is NOT based on reality.

wow man...You are really pessimistic. I have never seen a post so full of negativity lol. You wouldn't last a day as a coach. You will probably be like Kevin Garnett is gonna dunk it on our face, He is gonna block all our shots, and we will lose this game.

That made absolutley no sense whatsoever. But you are the complete opposite if he is a pessismist. You have Miami at the 4 seed in your thread, ahead of Atlanta, the team that beat us last year and made improvements and we stayed the same. Do the math.

Do the math, We went to a game 7 with our rookies and we lost 2 starters in game 7 plus Wade's back spasms. Joe Johnson would have never lighted us up like he did in game 7 because Moon would have kept him under control. Moon's long arms and athleticism would have kept him under control. WE LOST THE SERIES BECAUSE OF OUR INJURIES AND NOTHING ELSE. WE WERE THE BETTER TEAM.

If we were the better team, we wouldv'e had homecourt advantage in that playoff series. If we were the better team we would have won game 4, when we were healthy and at home to lead 3-1. Moon keeping Joe Johnson under control? The Celtics had trouble doing that 2 years ago, Moon is not Tayshaun Prince. That team was overall a better team than us, Wade carried us all last season, they got their wins through solid team play.

Thats because we didn't get a C until 2 months b4 the playoffs started, we maybe could of got the 4th seed. In Game 7 Moon, Head, O'neal, Wade, was injured. All we had leading the team was rookies. O yea did i 4get that James Jones hasn't recovered 100% from his injury. And Dorell Wright was injured. We have 6 palyers not 100%. Thats why we got beat. And u know wut happened when ATL played Cleveland? They got injured.

If we were fully 100% for all 7 games, then yes we couldv'e beat them. But we weren't and had a great oppurtunity to lead the series 3-1 to send it back to Atlanta, and we got thrashed on our homecourt when we were healthy.

Dorrel Wright was injured the whole year, therefore you cannot throw him in there as being a factor in that series. Same goes for Head, we got him like a month before the playoffs, what factor would he have been? Our only legit excuse is Jermaine's concussion and Wade's back. It ends there.

Game 4- No Moon, Wade back spasms
Game 5- No Moon, Wade back spasms
Game 6- We won, Wade recovered
Game 7- No Moon, No O'neal, Not at Home.

The first 3 games Joe Johnson played really bad because he couldn't do anything against Jamario Moon. Joe Johnson doesn't have quickness to score on Jamario. You have no idea how much different things would have been if we had Moon playing.

Maybe if Moon was playing, we could have kept Beasley off of the floor because Josh Smith started a poster line collection of his shoe on Beasley's forehead. If Moon had played, you would probably be B#tching about Beasley's minutes. Now getting back to all seriousness.

Game 4, We were at Home. The back spasms were'nt the only reason why Wade played bad. How about you give some credit to Atlanta's defense, which made him shoot 9-26. Injuries were a part of it, but Atlanta's defense was also another major part of them moving on and us being sent back to South Beach.

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The trade suggestion has been Beasley, Blount, and Jones. Even if we do lose him in 2010, we still got 30+ Mill to spend. Wade will resign then i know Riley will sign 2/3 other players.

Well theres the big debate! Do we send Beasely off for a superstar that has been injury prone or keep our young gun and hope he turns out to be a star. A lot of people want to keep Mike.

However, I prefer to have the Wade/big man duo than Wade/beasely.
Wade/big man won us a title.

Miami is still the 5th best team in the east without any moves, so yes they will make the playoffs as the 4th or 5th seed

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The trade suggestion has been Beasley, Blount, and Jones. Even if we do lose him in 2010, we still got 30+ Mill to spend. Wade will resign then i know Riley will sign 2/3 other players.

Well theres the big debate! Do we send Beasely off for a superstar that has been injury prone or keep our young gun and hope he turns out to be a star. A lot of people want to keep Mike.

However, I prefer to have the Wade/big man duo than Wade/beasely.
Wade/big man won us a title.

Amare is not that injury prone. He only injured his eye last year. I'm sure it won't effect his game much.

i didnt say 1 move will give us the 4th seed i said what if we made a move and it whoever we clicked with everyone on the team so well that we improved newver said any move will give us the 4th seed

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Amare is not that injury prone. He only injured his eye last year. I'm sure it won't effect his game much.

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HES gonna do a rip hamilton now and where a face mask

this isnt' fantasy leauge where getting all the best players mean you will win it all. it takes more then talent.

ok im trying to agree with you that the heat have a chance but to solidiify there playoffs chances they either need someone to step up this year Oneal,Haslem or acquire a player who will be a good fit with wade

As of now, we will be fighting for 6-8. Teams are making great moves and getting tougher and tougher. If the Celtics land Sheed and stay healthy, they are gonna be ridiculous. The Magic are unpredictable at this point. But they still are as good as they were last year at the least, and may possibly be better. The Hawks will be about the same. Crawford is really just another scorer. A healthy Washington is a dangerous team, however without any good big men besides Jamison, they will still have problems. The Pistons might even be better than us. At this point, if we dont sign some help, we are in trouble.

For those that are saying 7th seed...man you guys are nay sayers. Miami will definitely be contending for the 5th seed as long as D. Wade is healthy. But if this team expects to move forward and be a top 4 seed and a eastern conference finals team, they need to replace chalmers with a talented point guard, and a true power forward like Amare to do damage in the paint. And a good Center would be nice too. We are going to need big guys that can take Howard, Gasol, Odom, and Shaq next season.

The thing that hurt this team was not "better players" it was rookie mistakes.

This team will be a 4th or 5th seed and yeah if Wade stays healthy. You can say that about Lebron, Camelo, Howard and so on.

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we can't expact more then the 7th seed next year without any moves to improve the team...
Beasley,cook and Chalmers will improve but this is not enough...

7th... bwahahahaha thats hilarious... we were 5th last year, but because atl gets jamal crawford and gives up their one and only facilitator in mike bibby we're way worse than them now... tooo funny.

Im sorry but miami will be FINE, none of the moves made on the east coast are solid championship moves.

VC to orland isnt that impressive, they lost 3 great players, possibly 4 that made that team... alston, turkoglu, lee, gortat... thats a ton of depth to lose.

Detroit getting gordon and charlie V isnt that impressive, they are gonna probably lose rip and rasheed who are both better than either of the two they just brought in... so i dont see an improvement, plus they lost iverson, and i dont care what anyone says, he would have been a good piece and added depth to that team.

philly is the same team, brand is nothing but injury prone... and iggy is good, but i dont see him improving much more, and the rest of that team aside from young is decent at best, not a lot of room for them to move up if you ask me.

chicago just lost gordon, their best scorer, and signed some rookies that wont help them hardly at all... so tell me how they are better than us, when we beat them a bunch last year?? last time i checked they had 1 good rookie, we had 2?

Washington will be good, but only time will tell, arenas is not a true pg... he is a score first kind of guy, and while they will have a ton of offense, i dont see much defense on that team... jamison plays a lil and caron can play some post d on other 3's but he get beat off the dribble constantly. haywood isnt a serious threat inside, hes good, but not amazing by any means.

so theres the teams that are "miles" ahead of us rofl, and i dont see very many big improvements for them... if not watching them drop a bit.

As for cleveland... well shaq is good, but as i remember it was he lack of mobility that hurt cleveland against howard, and shaq or no shaq, you wont be able to stop that unless you have a guy like gasol, or 2 guys like gasol and bynum swarming around the hoop. I very much doubt that they will go with a lineup of

williams
west
lebron
Big Z
Shaq

in theory it could work cause Z can shoot, but still west is too small for the SG spot and will get beat up all day... so really they didnt improve a whole lot, they did some, but not majorly

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For those that are saying 7th seed...man you guys are nay sayers. Miami will definitely be contending for the 5th seed as long as D. Wade is healthy. But if this team expects to move forward and be a top 4 seed and a eastern conference finals team, they need to replace chalmers with a talented point guard, and a true power forward like Amare to do damage in the paint. And a good Center would be nice too. We are going to need big guys that can take Howard, Gasol, Odom, and Shaq next season.

wtf are you talking about?? chalmers was what 4th in the league in steals, in his rookie year?!?! i mean cmon give the kid some time to improve, beasley averaged better numbers than most of the elite PF's did in their first years, and in less minutes per game, so i think he can improve a bit. And jermain oneal was pretty solid last year at about 70% healthy, not to mention he had 3 blocks on howard in the 1st quarter of the last game against orlando... its gonna take time, but i think miami is looking pretty good for the future and i think the rookies will be NBA ready and experianced, and J.O. will be much healthier and ready to play, not to mention our game plan should be much better, not just a "give it wade and get outta the way" type of offense. some actual post plays, and ball rotation.

First of all atlanta hasn't lost bibby yet so there still better then us