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Assuming we resign wade we have enough cap room to sign just under the max contracts for 2 players that dont have to pay state tax.Who would be the best fit with wade.Assuming we can get any 2 guys besides lebron james what 2 players would you pick.I was thinking amare at center and bosh at pf with beasley at sf and chalmers still at point.Or joe johnson at sf and beasley at pf and amare or bosh at center.
Do you think any of these 2 scenarios would work?Which combo do you think works best next to wade,beasley,chalmers,and cook.I know this subject has been played out a million times but i am just curious to hear some of your opinions cause some of you has high basketball IQ,well more than me anyway. 1.amare,bosh 2.joe johnson,amare 3.joe johnson,bosh 4.dirk,joe 5.dirk,amare 6.dirk,bosh 7.your own combo. I dont think players like hamilton,redd,allen,etc would fit next to wade when we have cook.So thats why im going with bigs and SF. |
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i like #1 but we will still need a REAL STARTING PG.
WADE IS BETTER THAN KOBE OR BRON. |
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i was thinking amare and Miller
= center and PG problem solved 
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In order to fill the rest of the roster we can really only afford 2 max deals… one of which will go to Wade.
Here is why (we’ll use scenario number one for our example): Right now the salary cap is at $57.7 million. Wade, Bosh and Amare will all get max offers from other teams, so in order to secure them, we’d have to also give them a max offer, so… We give Wade a max deal (30% of the cap) We give Bosh a max deal (30% of the cap) We give Amare a max deal (30% of the cap) That’s 90% of our cap space tied up in three players, leaving use with $5.77 million and the MLE to fill the rest of our roster. Considering Cook and Beasley will be owed over $7 million in 2010, we simply can not afford all those top name players.  --------------------------------------- 2009 Rookie Poster of the Year as voted on by the Miami Heat Message Board Community. |
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Amare and Joe Johnson would be nice but that would be expensive, unless we give up Wade right off the bat
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Thats why i heard that they wanted to offer just slightly below the max contract for 3 years with the fact that miami has no state tax so it might be appealing to the players to sign for a chance to get 3 championship rings and then resign another max contract as free agents elsewhere after the 3 years is up.Also with beasley,chalmers,and cook signed we will have 2 first round picks to use as backups and we also have bird rights to players that are on the roster this year and we can sign them after we sign our max free agents and be able to go over the 57.7 million salary cap using the bird rights to complete our championship roster. |
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chris paul and amare
... one can only dream |
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Chris paul wont be available in 2010.Sure would be nice though.I would go with chris paul with bosh though. |
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hahaha yeah, thats why i added "one can only dream", that would be a nasty back court of wade and paul, and then you have amare or bosh in the front court.... coupled with beasley and hopefully haslem and Q-rich |
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Well, we actually COULD get 2 max free agents. We'd just have to sign the 2 big contracts, fill out the roster with the role players then Wade would be the last free agent signing. But this all depends on how much over the cap Miami wants to go. Amare, Bosh, Wade isn't impossible.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take |
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Thats exactly right with wades bird rights and the role players besides beasley,chalmers,and cook would have to have bird rights also. |
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------------------------------------------------ Of those options, and assuming Beasley is your power forward of the future (I'm relatively satisfied with his play and progress this season - people are kind of missing the reason that he isn't playing late in games isn't so much about him but about the excellent play of Haslem this year), I would pick option 3, if it could be worked out. PG - Chalmers SG - Wade SF - Johnson PF - Beasley C - Bosh One of the posters above mentioned some of the maneuvering that Riley and Arison would have to work out to make this happen, but if possible this is a great lineup. It's also extremely versatile, with 3 legit ball handlers, and again, in this arrangement, you DON'T want a point guard that needs shots, so Mario would be perfect here. |
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It will be highly unlikely, if not impossible, to get Wade, Amare, Bosh, or Dirk to sign for less than the max because they will absolutely get max offers from other teams this off season. There are a lot of teams getting cash lined up to sign LeBron and only one team is going to get him. That’s going to leave at least 4 or 5 teams with gobs of money to throw at the next guys on the list. We might be able to get Joe Johnson for less than the max, but he is a complementary player at best, nothing like those other four who are good enough to build around. Wade, Amare, Bosh and Dirk are all in their prime, meaning this is there chance to get the most money possible. In a few years these guys likely won’t get the same contract offers, so it’s take the money now or leave it on the table for good.
But anyway, even if we did offer Bosh and Amare just slightly less than the max and they took it (we’ll call it 25% of the cap), that still only leaves us with $11.5 million and the MLE to sign other players. Take away the $7 million we owe Cook and Beasley and that leaves us with $4.5 million and the MLE to sign at least 8 more guys. Considering Chris Quinn will make over $1 million this season, image what the rest of our team would look like. The only possible way for this all to work out would be the perfect storm scenario that Nolio laid out. And while this scenario works in theory, it is really risky for a few reasons. Firstly, I don’t want to wait a second more than needed to resign Wade. The minute he is willing to sign with us is the minute we need to sign him. Secondly, we still need to fill 8 roster spots before we are able to sign Wade. If we do that, and for some reason he isn’t happy with our additions, he is free to go elsewhere and we’re left completely broke with 3 guys who play the same position, Cook, Chalmers and 7 scrubs. --------------------------------------- 2009 Rookie Poster of the Year as voted on by the Miami Heat Message Board Community. |
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bird rights dont just work like that.... we cant just sign whoever we want and than sign wade last. please stop posting these ridiculous posts because this will never happen.
the best we can do is dwade and another max player. that is it nothing more.  |
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Actually its a risk worth taking cause wade wont resign with the heat anyway unless the heat have signed the help that was promised to wade to stay in the first place.You actually think wade will sign with the heat without the heat having signed the superstar help he needs.The best scenario is to get the 2 superstars whoever they are and then sign wade who is more than happy to sign with having the help he needs to get championships and then resign the guys who have bird rights like haslem,wright,etc.Then round out the roster spots the the 2 first round picks. 2 superstars wade beasley chalmers cook haslem wright joel anthony magloire or maybe oneal for cheap 2 first round draft picks Thats a roster of 12 with having signed back 8 players with bird rights so we are not bound by the salary cap. Question is how much the heat will go over the salary cap to create a dynasty championship team. |
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