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Originally posted by cavsfan:
This thread shows a great deal of insecurity... are you Miami fans so pathetic that you have to resort to calling Lebron LeChoke just because he single-handedly got his team to the Finals (no help like your boy Wade had), and put on a much greater and more clutch performance than this league has seen in years?

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I know this wasnt towards me but what you're saying is completely non-sense IMO. According to you, we dont need one of the best top 3 player in the game right now, the best finisher around the rim we have in the game, a player with one of the best shot selection in the nba and a player with one of the true finest jumpers in the game and a player who can take over the game anytime he wants and on top of that, one of the best clutch shooters in the game.

A. Lebron is a better finisher... I'm not going to explain myself on this one, because you really need to get off any kind of b-ball forum if you think that Wade is a better finisher than Lebron.

B. It's not hard to "take over games at will" when you've got one of the league's most dominating centers diverting attention away from you. I'd like to see Wade attempt to take over the game with the double-teaming that Lebron faces every night... that would be amusing.

C. How can Wade be one of the finest shooters in the game if he can barely make an outside shot? LMAO.

Anyways... based on Lebron's outside shooting (which he worked really hard on this off-season), you haters will be in for a bit of a rough time this season... Lebron's going to be lighting places up everywhere.

I heard a comment about Lebron playing good defense... why? Wade is free to spend more energy on his defense mainly because he has MUCH less offensive responsibility on his team than Lebron has, and thus conserves more of it for the other end of the floor. Now that Lebron doesn't have to wear himself out so much by taking all of the shots and making all of the passes, he has been free to lock down a bit... it has worked.

And, in my humble opinion, Lebron has looked every bit of the "#1 leader" of team USA.

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Originally posted by flash = future:

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Originally posted by cavsfan:
This thread shows a great deal of insecurity... are you Miami fans so pathetic that you have to resort to calling Lebron LeChoke just because he single-handedly got his team to the Finals (no help like your boy Wade had), and put on a much greater and more clutch performance than this league has seen in years?

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I know this wasnt towards me but what you're saying is completely non-sense IMO. According to you, we dont need one of the best top 3 player in the game right now, the best finisher around the rim we have in the game, a player with one of the best shot selection in the nba and a player with one of the true finest jumpers in the game and a player who can take over the game anytime he wants and on top of that, one of the best clutch shooters in the game.

A. Lebron is a better finisher... I'm not going to explain myself on this one, because you really need to get off any kind of b-ball forum if you think that Wade is a better finisher than Lebron.

B. It's not hard to "take over games at will" when you've got one of the league's most dominating centers diverting attention away from you. I'd like to see Wade attempt to take over the game with the double-teaming that Lebron faces every night... that would be amusing.

C. How can Wade be one of the finest shooters in the game if he can barely make an outside shot? LMAO.

Anyways... based on Lebron's outside shooting (which he worked really hard on this off-season), you haters will be in for a bit of a rough time this season... Lebron's going to be lighting places up everywhere.

I heard a comment about Lebron playing good defense... why? Wade is free to spend more energy on his defense mainly because he has MUCH less offensive responsibility on his team than Lebron has, and thus conserves more of it for the other end of the floor. Now that Lebron doesn't have to wear himself out so much by taking all of the shots and making all of the passes, he has been free to lock down a bit... it has worked.

And, in my humble opinion, Lebron has looked every bit of the "#1 leader" of team USA.

A. You're an Idiot if you think Lebron is a better finisher than wade. LeBron chokes more times than driving to the lane. He has resorted to jumpers than driving to the lane, except for that game in the detroit series. In the finals, all he was doing was shooting jumpers but instead they were bricks.

B. Wade faces double teams every time hes tries to go to the lane. How you going to say he doesn't get double teamed or even tripled teamed?

C. I said he got one of the best finest jumpers in the league idiot, not one of the best 3-point shooters in the league. If you dont believe he does, watch the finals. Also, a player can have a very good jumper without having to be a threat from outside the arc. What an idiotic statement you just posted there.

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Originally posted by KCi:

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"He(Lebron), in my eye, will be better than Jordan."-Scottie Pippen

haha.. scottie just lost credibility.. jealousy is a terrible thing.

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Originally posted by cavsfan:

And, in my humble opinion, Lebron has looked every bit of the "#1 leader" of team USA.

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:
Eh, I admit when I'm wrong. We will all be served hot crow as Lebron actually was a leader. And how does one learn to shoot in like two months? Somewhere Mike Brown is frowning. And Kobes getting 8 assists, what world are we living in? Anyways congrats to Lebron for his gold medal. There goes all those fun LeBronze jokes. The more I think about it, I'm selfish I if team usa can own the olympics without wade then hell yeah let him stay because I don't want him to be wore out like everyone was this year.

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:

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Originally posted by cavsfan:

And, in my humble opinion, Lebron has looked every bit of the "#1 leader" of team USA.

One could argue he was the best player but Jason Kidd was the captain buddy. Ask for finest shooters I mean wade has a better midrange. For example Lebron could kill a guy like tony parker shooting threes (that lebron shouldn't take in the frst place with all that athletism) but he would get crush in a midrange shootout. That's why he sucked in the finals.

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Originally posted by flash = future:

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:
Eh, I admit when I'm wrong. We will all be served hot crow as Lebron actually was a leader. And how does one learn to shoot in like two months? Somewhere Mike Brown is frowning. And Kobes getting 8 assists, what world are we living in? Anyways congrats to Lebron for his gold medal. There goes all those fun LeBronze jokes. The more I think about it, I'm selfish I if team usa can own the olympics without wade then hell yeah let him stay because I don't want him to be wore out like everyone was this year.

LeBronze will be done but we still have LeChoke and LeBrick as long as he doesn't prove himself in the biggest stage in the NBA, the finals. ;x

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:

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Originally posted by flash = future:

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:
Eh, I admit when I'm wrong. We will all be served hot crow as Lebron actually was a leader. And how does one learn to shoot in like two months? Somewhere Mike Brown is frowning. And Kobes getting 8 assists, what world are we living in? Anyways congrats to Lebron for his gold medal. There goes all those fun LeBronze jokes. The more I think about it, I'm selfish I if team usa can own the olympics without wade then hell yeah let him stay because I don't want him to be wore out like everyone was this year.

LeBronze will be done but we still have LeChoke and LeBrick as long as he doesn't prove himself in the biggest stage in the NBA, the finals. ;x

Eh I never thought that was a fair one. I didn't think he choked in the finals. A teams that was better that everyone knew as bettter killed the cavs. The cavs never had a shot from the get go. That's different from say dirk and the mavs who alot of people pegged as betterthen us and also had a 2-0 lead. The cavs never had anything to choke.

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Originally posted by flash = future:

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:

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Originally posted by flash = future:

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:
Eh, I admit when I'm wrong. We will all be served hot crow as Lebron actually was a leader. And how does one learn to shoot in like two months? Somewhere Mike Brown is frowning. And Kobes getting 8 assists, what world are we living in? Anyways congrats to Lebron for his gold medal. There goes all those fun LeBronze jokes. The more I think about it, I'm selfish I if team usa can own the olympics without wade then hell yeah let him stay because I don't want him to be wore out like everyone was this year.

LeBronze will be done but we still have LeChoke and LeBrick as long as he doesn't prove himself in the biggest stage in the NBA, the finals. ;x

Eh I never thought that was a fair one. I didn't think he choked in the finals. A teams that was better that everyone knew as bettter killed the cavs. The cavs never had a shot from the get go. That's different from say dirk and the mavs who alot of people pegged as betterthen us and also had a 2-0 lead. The cavs never had anything to choke.

The same was said about heat/mavs finals. Mostly everyone chose the mavs to win the finals. Even worse when they had the 2-0 lead. After that, and the 2 clutch shots GP had, Wade took over and became the superstar he is now.

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:

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Originally posted by flash = future:

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:

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Originally posted by flash = future:

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:
Eh, I admit when I'm wrong. We will all be served hot crow as Lebron actually was a leader. And how does one learn to shoot in like two months? Somewhere Mike Brown is frowning. And Kobes getting 8 assists, what world are we living in? Anyways congrats to Lebron for his gold medal. There goes all those fun LeBronze jokes. The more I think about it, I'm selfish I if team usa can own the olympics without wade then hell yeah let him stay because I don't want him to be wore out like everyone was this year.

LeBronze will be done but we still have LeChoke and LeBrick as long as he doesn't prove himself in the biggest stage in the NBA, the finals. ;x

Eh I never thought that was a fair one. I didn't think he choked in the finals. A teams that was better that everyone knew as bettter killed the cavs. The cavs never had a shot from the get go. That's different from say dirk and the mavs who alot of people pegged as betterthen us and also had a 2-0 lead. The cavs never had anything to choke.

The same was said about heat/mavs finals. Mostly everyone chose the mavs to win the finals. Even worse when they had the 2-0 lead. After that, and the 2 clutch shots GP had, Wade took over and became the superstar he is now.

But if the heat lost after being down 2-0 they wouldn't be chokers. They would be that team that lost. The mavs got booted by a eighth seed the very next year so obviously they are a little different from four time champions who have the highest winning percentage in sport in the last 10 years. Expecting Lebron to beat them (with a much crappier supporting cast no less) is a bit unrealistic. I am often guilty of hating on lebron but I don't think you can blame him for loosing to a much better team. Plus for what it's worth shaq has been swept like six times including his first finals appearence. Shaq was swept by the bulls this years and you can use wades injuries exuse but did Larry H's injury help stop Tony Parker any? What's the difference between theway Shaq got swept and the way Bron got swept except for the fact that Lebron got swept by a far better team?

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Originally posted by flash = future:

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:

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Originally posted by flash = future:

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:

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Originally posted by flash = future:

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:
Eh, I admit when I'm wrong. We will all be served hot crow as Lebron actually was a leader. And how does one learn to shoot in like two months? Somewhere Mike Brown is frowning. And Kobes getting 8 assists, what world are we living in? Anyways congrats to Lebron for his gold medal. There goes all those fun LeBronze jokes. The more I think about it, I'm selfish I if team usa can own the olympics without wade then hell yeah let him stay because I don't want him to be wore out like everyone was this year.

LeBronze will be done but we still have LeChoke and LeBrick as long as he doesn't prove himself in the biggest stage in the NBA, the finals. ;x

Eh I never thought that was a fair one. I didn't think he choked in the finals. A teams that was better that everyone knew as bettter killed the cavs. The cavs never had a shot from the get go. That's different from say dirk and the mavs who alot of people pegged as betterthen us and also had a 2-0 lead. The cavs never had anything to choke.

The same was said about heat/mavs finals. Mostly everyone chose the mavs to win the finals. Even worse when they had the 2-0 lead. After that, and the 2 clutch shots GP had, Wade took over and became the superstar he is now.

But if the heat lost after being down 2-0 they wouldn't be chokers. They would be that team that lost. The mavs got booted by a eighth seed the very next year so obviously they are a little different from four time champions who have the highest winning percentage in sport in the last 10 years. Expecting Lebron to beat them (with a much crappier supporting cast no less) is a bit unrealistic. I am often guilty of hating on lebron but I don't think you can blame him for loosing to a much better team. Plus for what it's worth shaq has been swept like six times including his first finals appearence. Shaq was swept by the bulls this years and you can use wades injuries exuse but did Larry H's injury help stop Tony Parker any? What's the difference between theway Shaq got swept and the way Bron got swept except for the fact that Lebron got swept by a far better team?

quick note, Lebron is not considered lechoke because the cavs got swept, he is called lechoke because he choked in the finals in an individual way IMO. He averaged 22.0ppg and averaged almost 6 turnovers per game. On top of that, seeing how Bowen (being called a lock down defender) would leave lebron all alone to shoot jumpers and he would shoot bricks. Thats pretty bad.

Moving along, how you going to compare the way shaq got swept in the finals to the way lebron got swept? If you trying to say O'neal choked the way Lebron choked then you are absolutely crazy. Shaq faced the greatest hakeem olajuwon and the boston celtics of now with his rockets squad. On top of that, hakeem made history to score at least 30 points in every game of the finals, ending with 32.8ppg and o'neal didnt played as bad as lebron did. He put up some great numbers also against hakeem with 28.0ppg. So again, I dont see how the way shaq got swept could be compared to how lebron got swept.

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:

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Originally posted by KCi:

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"He(Lebron), in my eye, will be better than Jordan."-Scottie Pippen

haha.. scottie just lost credibility.. jealousy is a terrible thing.

Yeah, atleast Bill Walton is funny. He said later in that same post that Kobe is just as close to Jordan as any other player in the L. Talk about your contradictions. But if Lebron can prove that jumpshot wasn't magic then who knows where he will be in two years.