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Originally posted by Penny Hardaway:

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The question wasn't whether it should have been a foul call or not or if J*** fans should be upset there was no call. The question was whether it was a push-off or not, and even in your answer you stated it was: "jordan semi-pushed off."

Even many who say it was a push-off agree that it was a good no-call. But, it WAS a push-off.

ah i thought my post made sense already. it's not a foul. who in the hell would call a foul in that play?

no way jordan would get offensive foul in that play. seriously lol.

It didn't make sence and it still doesn't because you aren't saying your opinion. Your saying there is no way a reff would have the balls to call that on jordan. The question is weather he pushed off or not. Semi Penny hardaway fan. Credit? Your name.

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Originally posted by Penny Hardaway:

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Originally posted by heat&spurs4ever:

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Originally posted by Penny Hardaway:

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Originally posted by JoeJam:
The question wasn't whether it should have been a foul call or not or if J*** fans should be upset there was no call. The question was whether it was a push-off or not, and even in your answer you stated it was: "jordan semi-pushed off."

Even many who say it was a push-off agree that it was a good no-call. But, it WAS a push-off.

ah i thought my post made sense already. it's not a foul. who in the hell would call a foul in that play?

no way jordan would get offensive foul in that play. seriously lol.

It didn't make sence and it still doesn't because you aren't saying your opinion. Your saying there is no way a reff would have the balls to call that on jordan. The question is weather he pushed off or not. Semi Penny hardaway fan. Credit? Your name.

your opinion of oj semi killed two people is great..not. how in the world did you even compare basketball to accused killing? i can't find a way to compare them.

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Your failure to gather the balls to make a real opinion and saying Jordan "semi pushed off" was being mocked

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Maybe the war in Iraq is about B.S. shoot I'm on to something new!

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Originally posted by Penny Hardaway:
are you an idiot?

what is "real opinion" lol.

it's like you're forcing me to give a statement to you. i gave you my opinion idiot.

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Your failure to gather the balls to make a real opinion and saying Jordan "semi pushed off" was being mocked

do you know what an opinion is? check your dictionary. sadly, "real opinion" does not make sense at all. there is no such thing as real opinion.

and plus, i already said earlier that it is not a foul. that's my opinion. if you disagree with that, then that is your damn opinion. no need to force your opinion with mine since your perception of a foul is different from mine.

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Maybe the war in Iraq is about B.S. shoot I'm on to something new!

where did this come from? if you want to talk about war, i'll gladly discuss it with you since i have relatives who are in the military in iraq right now.

you are on to something new, you give idiocy a bad name.

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Originally posted by JoeJam:
Jordan pushed off, though slight as it was. When you have a person moving laterally at that speed, the slightest nudge can force that individual to lose balance and create space and an advantage. That's what Jordan did. He gave a slight nudge that made it impossible for Russell to regain balance and defensive positioning. If Jordan created that off balance with a sharp cross-over dribble, then fine. But, he didn't. He used his hand to slightly nudge Russell to create the advantage. He pushed off.

That being said, I like the fact that it was a no-call. In that instance, a foul call should not be something that should help determine the outcome of that game. Let the players decide at that moment. To me, it should be a blatantly obvious foul for it to be called. If Russell hadn't lost balance and challenged the shot and slapped Jordan's shooting hand after the ball was released, I likewise wouldn't want a foul call made.

Again, let the players decide unless there's no choice but to make a call. While it was a push-off, it wasn't the type that should affect the game. Jordan still had to drain the jumper, and he did.

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Looking at from where the video count is 2:08 to 2:17 I don't see a push or a nudge. I see Jordan planting hard with his right leg crossing Russell over as his left hand slides down Russell's body.

RedLion, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.